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Courageous Reinvention post COVID-19

The last two months have been incredibly tough for many people. Job losses, role changes, dis-connected from our teams, family and friends, and an incredible amount of uncertainty about what will happen next.

In this ‘Wine and Wisdom’ episode called ‘Courageous Reinvention post COVID-19’ I speak with the very talented Lucy Bloom.

We discuss:

  1. How do you go about reinventing yourself if your job or role has changed professionally or if this time of self-isolation has meant you have reassessed your life?
  2. What new adventures can you start planning for now, so you have something to look forward to once we get through this tricky time?
  3. Why it is crucial to have adventures to look forward to…even if your financial circumstances have dramatically changed.
  4. What it means to live a courageous life and how to move through the fear when uncertainty is all around you.
  5. Plus lots, lots more.

H – Hello and welcome to the Wine and Wisdom Show. Thank you for being here tonight. This show is all about connection. And I’m sure that you will agree that one of the most positive things that has come out of this extremely stressful and uncertain time is that we need to connect, we need to proactively connect with people who put a smile on our face, they put some warmth in our heart and they put some wisdom in our head and that’s what this show is all about. I feel like I’ve been really lucky throughout my life that I have been surrounded by extremely talented and interesting people. So the reason I wanted to start this Wine and Wisdom Show was firstly, so I could connect with you and have a wine with you digitally/virtually. Just to note that we started doing this in 2019 before virtual wines were a thing, you saw it here first. So that’s the first reason. And the second reason is so that I could showcase some of the most resilient and courageous self leaders, who I believe are really making a difference to this world and tonight’s guest is no exception to that, oh my God, you are in for a treat and I have a very special dress on because of it, you’ll see why in a minute. So I want to explain to you a little about the context of why I have the incredible Lucy Bloom on here tonight. It was about 2002, and my sister gifted me a book called “The Hospital by the River”. And it was an amazing book about an amazing Australian woman called Catherine Hamlin. And she had gone to Ethiopia aa a gynaecologist and set up an amazing practice there with her husband, to help women who had labour induced fistulas and at the time I had just set up my Education and Girls Empowerment Foundation in Vanuatu, so I was very interested in incredible women who were doing incredible things and I have followed her ever since. Then all of a sudden about 10 years after that something incredible happened to that foundation because one of the most amazing woman was brought into their world and she was the CEO of the Australian arm of that foundation and her name was Lucy Bloom. And I have been, she doesn’t know this, she can hear me, but she doesn’t know I’m saying this. I have been kind of following her, I wouldn’t say stalking, I have not been stalking, but I’ve had a bit of a girl crush on her ever since then. So when I reached out to her to bring her on to the Wine and Wisdom show and she said yes, I was like, oh my God. so without me making more of a fool of myself, I’m going to bring her up so she can share with you all her wisdom. Here we go?

L – Hi.

H – Oh my God, you’ve got pink hair and I’ve got a pink dress. Look at that.

L – Welcome to my boudoir and that’s my whale. Whale above my bed.

H – Ah yes, look at that lovely whale. Hello Lucy, thank you so much for being here, did you just hear me say that I had a girl crush on you?

L – I did.

H – Did it make you feel uncomfortable or are you all right with that?

L – That’s very nice of you and it’s OK to be a stalker in a professional sense, I do that all day.

H – Of course that’s all that it is! So look, I’ve given a little bit of an intro, but what I would love for you to do is to share with everyone, who’s either watching now or who is going to be watching after we hang up, because that’s what happens a lot on Facebook lives…oh no, you know what, I need to check one thing. Have you got a wine with you?

L – I do, I have a little tipple.

H – A little Tipple?

L – In this glass from Vinnies that I bought a few years ago.

H – They’re often the best ones. We’d like to know, those who are listening, have you got a wine with you? Are you drinking red, are you drinking white? Have you got beer, bubbles, a gin and tea, what have you got? Let us know in the comments so we know that you are joining us for Wine and Wisdom properly. And while you’re doing that, we’re going to get Lucy to share with us who she is, what she does and how she’s sprinkling positivity in our world. Off you go Lucy.

L – Aw, thanks. Look, I was the CEO of the charitable entity that funded the network of hospitals in Ethiopia, but my time with that organisation ended in 2015. I do refer to that year, to the year of the shit sandwich and that’s well covered in my memoir. But these days I’m mainly a speaker, I speak at events and that world has been turned upside down of late, so those live events which I adore, I love the electricity of those events and really love the fun of being on stage, but those events have been converted into online events, so I do a lot of speaking and I’m a writer, I have two books that I wrote, and I’m a consultant, so I’m a business fixer. I go into businesses depending on what’s falling over and work on how to fix them. As far as spreading positivity goes, I guess it’s just how I am and it’s how I’ve run every team. It’s how, when you read the way I write it’s very positive and upbeat.

H – Got it.

L – Sometimes I really have to override, you know everyone has a flat as a pancake days and I have to override those feelings and actually force myself to be positive. I often speak on this in my speeches, I talk about how anxiety can really take over and you have to, I’ve learnt the skill, I had a motorcycle accident in my first year out of high school, and I spent a lot of time in hospital and during that hospital time, instead of being anxious about things I couldn’t control, I hated being out of control. Instead of being anxious about things I couldn’t control, I fantasied about best case scenarios and that is a more creative, exciting way to think. And I still use that, here I am, what am I? 27 years later and if I have a huge speech and I’m nervous about new content and a whopping audience and I find it hard to sleep the night before, I fantasise about best case scenarios, so I get a standing ovation at the end of that speech. And then George Clooney comes on stage with one of those giant novelty checks for a hundred grand and then I push my brain further, then I’m actually picture myself getting on a plane with one of those novelty checks, and put it in the overhead luggage and it is a really creative thing to do, much more positive way to push your brain. And I guess I had a lot of practice doing that when I had 14 reconstructive operations to put me back together, it’s quite a scare.

H – Oh my God.

L – And that’s how I put just positivity in my life.

H – Yeah and I have read your book, and it is “Get the Girls Out”, we’re going to talk a bit about that tonight. See how many times you have written about adversity and kept on reinventing yourself and I suppose that’s why I really wanted to bring you on tonight, because so many people, well apart from the fact that I have been kind of stalking you for all these years. So many people, who joined this whole pandemic have, they’ve lost jobs, they’ve lost their position. I was talking to a woman who was the organisational change manager on one of our largest national companies, very successful, I’ve been doing some work there. It was a huge role that she had there for years, but all of a sudden she was now in a call center, that was the only way they could keep her in a job. So this kind of transformation that everyone’s had to go to with little or big ways, is reinvention, this pivot that is being used so much.

L – Pivot is sometimes a nice word for a face plant. I was talking to a friend of mine, she’s an Aboriginal midwife in Victoria. And the whole COVID-19 bizzo had forced her to have a whole sack of time off. And it gave her the clearance and time, but she has a bunch of kids, I think she has seven kids, six or seven kids. Coolest chick, she’s learning how to be a hot-air balloon pilot. She’s the coolest chick. COVID-19 has forced her to have time off, which actually gave her the time she needed to take a long hard look at her health, she realised she had kidney disease. But now this has given her this clearance to deal with her health and give her a reboot. And she said honestly, if it hadn’t been for COVID-19, she said, “I would’ve shortened my life expectancy, seriously.” So there’s some really cool upsides to forced rest and from my perspective, I really miss all that money in the bank account. I’m missing that. I miss my mum because she’s 80 and I can’t go and see her. But otherwise this has been a privilege to have this forced time off, it just takes balls of steel to use the time off positively, it really does. I think we all have our ups and downs where the rollercoaster is really hard to take, there are days where you freaking out about, how am I going to keep paying this mortgage? Or well, oh hi, Chris Renwick, look at you. The ups and downs are tough, but if you can step back from the worry of the unknown and use this time as like an enforce sabbatical, those are for the people who are forced to have some time off. If you can use that like an enforce sabbatical, it will be time so well spent. And here’s a really juicy example. 10 years ago, I was running an advertising agency and I had one juicy big client. They represented 80% of our business and that’s not ideal, but it’s just how the world tends to flow. You can’t help it, what are you going to do? Say no. But we peddle hard and we lost this client suddenly and this used to happen. Made by a big brand and if a new person came in they’d say, “Oh, we’re looking for new marketing, we’re going to go with big ad agency, mainstream ad agency.” And it would because such chaos, but we lost them and we thought we would never get them back. Lost this major client, 80% of our business, I thought this is my chance to write the book I’ve always wanted to write. And my husband at the time really didn’t want me to write a book, he wanted to focus on getting new business. But I thought I’m never going to get this juicy chunk of time to write this book, so I ignored him, “I’m the optimist, he was the pessimist. I just said, “No, I’m going to write this book.” I wrote that book and that book has been a consistent income for me for the last 10 years. I am so glad I wrote that book. And I’ve just republished that book and I look at this shiny thing, oh, let me just show it off.

H – Oh, look at that.

L – Childbirth, that’s the book I wrote when I lost that client and I’ve just updated it. Now I look at that thing and I think it’s just going to tick away. And just before we came online, orders were coming in and I’ll have to fill those tomorrow, that was created in that space that I didn’t want to have, enforce sabbatical and I just went hard and used that time. But it’s tough going, it’s hard to stay positive all the time. You just have to kind of accept that sometimes there’s flat as a pancake days that suck really hard. It depends on who you work for and what you do, whether you’re over worked or completely unoccupied at the moment, it tends to be one or the other.

H – It does tend to be one or the other and it’s really hard to tap into the other end of the spectrum where you’re not at.

L – Yeah, that’s right. Really overworked, working monster hours, anyone in supermarkets, freight, Australia Place is working 24 hours a day. There are some businesses that have really really tapped out and others putting their staff off, it was such an unpredictable turn of events.

H – It sure was. And if anybody is listening right now and you think they could do with a dose of Lucy, please tag them or share them to your profile right now with your friends, so people can tap into the wisdom that she’s going to share with us and is sharing with us and if you have any questions, please put them in the comments box and we will get her to answer them. I believe she is going to give away a prize.

L – Yeah.

H – What are you going to give away and who’s it going to go to?

L – Well, I’ll give away a little, I call this the Blooming Bundle, there we go. Which is a copy of each of my books, “Get the Girls Out”, which is my memoir and “Cheers to Childbirth”, which is a dads guide to childbirth support. There we go.

H – How about that.

L – And if you’re not expecting a baby, that’s okay. Just read all the birth stories ‘because they’re gorgeous, don’t crack the spine and then give it to someone who is having a baby.

H – Yes, absolutely.

L – All you have to do is, you just have to make a comment, a friendly comment and we’ll choose someone randomly who’s made a comment on our chat this evening.

H – Lucy, in your book, you talked about it, there was this wonderful part of it where you talked about having new adventures, I think it was when your kids were eight and then 14, they got to choose an adventure or you chose it for them I can’t remember which way it was. You massaged what adventure they were going to have, but it was all about life should be filled with adventures and I think right now everyone feels, because they’re been self isolating for so long, there’s all this uncertainty about when there’s going to be international travel, who knows that, but the gates will open up for national travel we would imagine at some stages this year. What do you say to people who are stuck in this uncertainty and fear about all that is going on, tell us what your thoughts are about right now, about having a plan for a new adventure, why is it important and what should you do?

L – Well, I find for myself, I have to have my next adventure planned or I’m getting antsy. So my rule is, I need flights booked in my Qantas app, if I have my Qantas app and there’s no flights, I start to get a little bit antsy, like what are my plans? When I did have a gorgeous trip planned in June, which I had to postpone and that’s to go to a private island in the Philippines with my kids. It’s a child-free island, which would normally be awesome, but I am going to take my kids and every now and they close the island and I know the owner of the island and his cute grandkids come out from the States. So that plan with definitely come to fruition at some point. As soon as we can travel. And I’m sure we’ll be able to travel at some stage. Look, if nobody travels in 2020, that’s okay. Like if the worse thing that happens in 2020, is we’re a bit bored, that’s okay.

H – Yeah, yeah.

L – We want to take stock and maybe that means travelling locally. I was chatting to another fellow speaker, we were talking about how much we loved Morga. We both have spoken in Margo and that reminded me of a friend who lived in Sydney, she’s a midwife, she’s an acupuncturist essentially and she searched all over Australia for a regional centre she wanted to move to. She had all the regional centres and she chose Margo. And she said it was the best place for all the things she wanted and there’s so much fun to be had regionally. So there’s lots of adventures to be had close to home and look, I turn anything into an adventure. The day before yesterday, my 14-year-old and I went to Costco, which I just find the funniest place. It’s just so funny ‘because everything has to be in such ridiculous quantities. You can buy 30 croissants and an inflatable island.

H – Which is so important–

L – It’s very funny and we do tend to turn any little trip into an adventure and into some fun and you know get Maccers on the way and do drive through and my kids tell me not to tell the lady off in the drive through. So I guess it’s just a general attitude to life. Sally Lansbury is asking was it’s Boracay? No, it’s an island called NoaNoa Private Island and it’s off Palawan, beautiful little island–

H – Thank you for that question.

L -noanoaisland.com, I built their website, have a lookie. Adventures planned but treat everyday like an adventure, it’s all learn me stuff, walk in different directions, I’ve been doing a particular walk and they closed off some of the cliff walk between Coogee and Bondi. And that forced me to take different roots and I found this really great uphill like a tower up this hill. So walk in different directions, sit in different seats, life doesn’t have to be an adventure that includes overseas flights, although those are fabulous.

H – No, it doesn’t. We’re getting lots of lovely comments here and I’d love for everybody to wtite what is the number one adventure that you are going to do as soon as you can? I want you to put it in the comments so we can have a look at that. And I think it’s really important to say that early this year and at the end of last year, Australia had the most horrendous bush fires and our regional areas were decimated, so if we can plan to have adventures in those areas, it will help that economy, that would be a wonderful thing to be able do. That’s my two bit from that.

L – Absolutely, it’s unreal, Tamworth is such a cool place to travel to, because I’m in Sydney so it’s places I can drive to. I’m speaking at a big event that’s turned online for Ballarat, Chamber of Commerce, those regional places are awesome places to travel to.

H – They really are. And Lucy, on that discovering new adventures, planning for new adventures, how does the actual plan, even if you’re not a hundred percent sure when or how it’s going to happen right now, how does that change how you feel everyday when you get to plan for an adventure?

L – Yes. I honestly think half of the fun is the planning, the actual adventure is freaking exhausting usually. The fun is planning, thinking, googling, talking. When I took my eight-year-old to India, we did a horse tracking ride to Stan. And that was inspired by a woman I met in Byron Bay, who was selling all the Indian dresses an Indian lady, she’s selling all the cotton dresses. One of them had a hole in it and so the dresses are only $5, the other one’s for 20, and I said, “Why’s this one $5?” She said, “It’s got a little tear in it from the time I was riding horses in Rajasthan, that’s all she said to me. Then I was like googling, what do you mean horses in Rajasthan? And then discovered these horses with the cute curly ears and so my kids think they chose their adventures but your absolutely right, I did kind of right direction for an adventure.

H – Look at this adventure, wouldn’t you like to have that.

L – The planning of that was so much fun and we found a local agent, I found that a really good thing to do, to actually find someone on the ground in that country to book me on the ground stuff, so I book my flights here but I find a local agent and so much fun, the anticipation of fun is part of the fun. Going to bed with butterflies, you’re so excited about riding a horse in Rajasthan, that came in here from months beforehand and even if it made it to departure dates. One of the things I really want to do is to swim with the whales in Tonga, had no idea when I’m going to do that, but I follow a few things on Instagram and every time I see whales and people snorkelling with them, I know I’m going to do that some day. And that is going to be in September and now I have to find the right person who wants to go with me, but it’s going to happen. I get the thrills because I know it will happen, it’s on my list and it’s going to happen and I’m not the kind of person who says one day, actually will do it, it may be next September, probably won’t be this September because of travel restrictions but it’s going to happen.

H – Yes, so planning is half the fun and it helps to give us purpose to the days where there’s just franticness or there’s boredom. To plan for that future, the optimism that’s going to be really good and it’s going to fill you up and fill you with joy and–

L – And start pouring those place and things on whatever platform you enjoy, Pinterest, whatever, it’s Instagram for me. And I still follow places, beautiful, gorgeous places in Palawan in the Philippines, ‘because I’ve been there a couple of times. Places in Uganda, they’re just so beautiful. And for them to come up on your feed before and for years after, it’s part of the fun.

H – Yeah. Lucy, I would describe your life as a courageous life. And I love the word courage, I’ve written a book called, “Her middle name is Courage”. I always thought that the word I want to be remembered for is that word courage, no matter what goes on in life that she’s filled with courage and I know that you are. In your words, what does it mean to lead a courageous life, especially at a time right now, when there is a lot of fear and uncertainty and even though in Australia, we are starting to see the light a little bit, there’s the end of the tunnel. But again we’re not sure if that will be brought back because of what actually happens, so there’s still a lot of uncertainty, the economic unfolding is still to come, there’ll be years of things that happen because of what has gone on right now that’s not going to be great. I know that your life has changed quite remarkably as well. So when there is fear and uncertainty, what does it mean to lead a courageous life and how do you advise others to step into that?

L – Sure, good question and I give whole speeches on this.

H – I know, I watched them on YouTube.

L – Stop if I go on too long. Look I have a definition of courage. To me courage is showing up even though you know things might not turn out so well. So it’s not courage of you know you’re going to win, it’s not courage, you know when you go on a rollercoaster, that’s not courage, ‘because you know you’re going to be fine, unless you’re in dream world. Courage is about when things are not going to turn out okay, you show up anyway. You face the music and you don’t behave like a pork chop, you behave with grace. So it’s showing up even though you know things won’t turn out so grand and you don’t behave like a peanut, that’s what courage is to me.

H – Yeah, right.

L – So living a courage’s life, is not about facing a firing squad or jumping out of an airplane into a war zone, although those things are incredibly courageous, I’ve never done any of those things. I have just had courage in the hair department, sometimes I’m quite mouthy and people say that’s courageous but I’m here hiding behind my keyboard that I’m mouthy things like too many old white men on stages and stuff like that. But I actually think courage is in every day, it’s an everyday occurrence. Courage makes the world go round. Courage happens every single day, for some people courage is opening their shop that day, don’t want to face whatever they have to face. Or courage is home schooling right now, having to sit at a table with their kids and try to make this thing work, it’s really courageous. I haven’t been courageous on that level at all, my kids are teenagers and I have said to them, ‘I give you WiFi and a well-stocked fridge, the rest is up to you. I am not pushing you to do anything,’ we’re really, really fortunate that they each have a bedroom, so they can just wrack off, shut the door and they have goal times and everything, their school is running quite well. So I haven’t been courageous on that level at all, I bet other people, boy, have they been courageous with primary school-aged kids, kids with learning disabilities, all trying to juggle their own work load and a household. Households want to eat like every night. Courage can be just facing the mental load of dinner every single night of the week and not having a dummy spit. It can just be going, “Okay that’s what I do for this family and I’m going to get it done.’ So courage comes in all shapes and sizes, it’s about showing up and not behaving like a peanut. So it’s actually quite easy to do when you look at it that way.

H – Yes it is.

L – What if courage is just overcoming fear and all fear is honestly is an awful feeling in your tummy, like you can mentalis it and just go, that’s all fear really is, it’s just I’m feeling it in my tummy and I just just have to feel it and keep moving forward, such much of the difficult I have been through and what I’ve had to face has just been about constantly moving forward, so just everyday I just keep putting one foot in front of the other and just keep moving forward and not looking back. So as I left organisations I’ve disconnected from them and just kept moving forward. Look, for the next adventure, the next theme. When COVID hit, I had a years worth of speaking Bujin and I had a really fabulous year ahead and I was probably going to build the most I’ve ever built a speaker. I’ve been a speaker for 15 years, but it was looking like such a good year and I was going to have the best and all this I’ve ever had. All of this was just booked to the eyeballs. And then within about, I was actually at a conference, four speakers and we were all together when we realised the magnitude of what was happening to the economy and what would happen. And we were all together when the New Zealand borders closed and all the New Zealanders in the room suddenly vanished and over the following week I just watched all of that business vanish before my eyes, so it was either postponed or cancelled altogether. And I just had to look at that as an adventure. And for the first time actually I was through something with everybody else. You know, every time I’d fall on my face it was all by myself, everyone else’s lives were normal. But at least this time around, well we’re not all in the same boat, we’re all in the same storm.

H – We are. It has that been helpful knowing that everybody else has got same same but different adversities.

L – Well, you take it less personally, it’s not about me, it’s just about a much broader global event and now I’m on this forced sabbatical and it’s time to turn this into an adventure. I don’t know, is it bravery when you don’t have a choice? Not sure.

H – Well I think that’s brave, when things have changed so much which I know they have for you. And it leads me to the next question in fact, where your life has changed completely, as I’ve watched you as a speaker knowing how much your calendar would just have deleted itself.

L – In my little my Qantas app.

H – Not there anymore?

L – Vanishing off.

H – Shame. So what are you doing, like if I talk about keeping your resilience bucket full, what are you doing personally to ensure that you can keep a smile on your face, when you’re looking at that blank calendar for 2020?

L – Yeah, well it’s not as blank as I thought it would be, which is really nice, I think it’s certainly quiet in the speaker space being businesses have spent the last couple of months, taking stock, working out what’s what. And now they’re looking ahead and going, “Okay, now we need to look after our people, we need to motivate them and we need to play content for them.” And so it’s not completely blank, it was, but it’s not completely blank. But it certainly has created a stack of time and the way to stay positive honestly, is to stay busy. If I have absolutely nothing planned, my thoughts do take over and I do start to worry. So the first thing I did was, I went, “Ah, great I’ve got time, what do I want to get done, that I’ve haven’t able to get done because I’m jumping on and off planes and stages and I’m doing media interviews and things.” And the first this was a podcast, I’ve wanted to do that, it’s honestly been on my list for 18 months or longer and I smashed that thing out, I’ve got 13 episodes now and I think I got the first eight in the first 10 days, so I was doing two a day and doing the production myself, so I learnt that skill of how to produce a podcast myself. So I did the podcast, now I’m mastering Facebook ads for my childbirth book, I’m really mastering those. There’s so much, oh, I’m finishing some studies, so I did some study on cultural competency for Aboriginal Sydney, and I’m really glad I’ve done that, so I don’t talk crap when I talk about Aboriginal Sydney, I’m not just some stupid white woman who has no idea what you talking about. So I’m really glad I’ve done that and I’m finishing some neuroscience study, which is a little bit boring, so it’s good having the time to go, “Oh, I’ll just get this done today.” Yeah and that neuroscience study fits into my speaking, I sound so much cleverer when I can say the neuroscientist saying and so it’s an important study to finish. So I’m getting stuff done and that getting things done really feels good. And speak to Micheal McQueen, really great guy, he’s my mentor, he’s such a generous guy and he calls it doing fast finishes. So look at things that you can finish quickly and just have the satisfaction of just going, boom, boom, boom that’s done. And that appeals to me, that’s works for me, to the point where I sometimes go and put things on my to-do list that are almost done, just so I can go, pa-ching. And you actually do get a little dopamine shot when you achieve something to do, yeah. My little Microsoft to-do, let me see if can make a noise for you. Do you hear that?

H – Hello.

L – How nice is that? Pa-ching.

H – It’s interesting you talk about your podcast, now just before I ask this question, I know we said we’d go for about half an hour, a little over, so if you could hang around, that would be great, if you’ve got the time, Lucy>

L – Sure, I give very long answers.

H – That’s all right, but if you have got some questions for Lucy, please put them in the chat box now, remembering that she’s going to choose the best comment or question to win her Blooming??

L – Blooming Bundle.

H – Blooming Bundle all right. Let’s talk about the podcast. And I know in your podcast you asked, what famous people perhaps they’ve got in their phone. So my question to you is that I have a big audacious, goal of people I really want to be able to interview one day so I want to know if they’re in your phone and you’ll be able to introduce me to them.

L – I will, hit me.

H – Okay, I’ve got three.

L – Sure.

H – Michelle Obama?

L – Oh no, can’t help you there.

H – Jacinda Ardern? These are my big ones, of course.

L – Yeah no, can’t help you there.

H – And Rob Stewart?

L – No.

H – Oh God. If anybody is listening and they can introduce me to those three, that would be terrific. Anyway, I got one last question for you Lucy. What is the most impactful piece of wisdom that you have been given by somebody else and what difference did it make to your life and why?

L – Oh gosh, I’ve been given so many and I’ve actually cramped lots of those into “Get the Girls Out”, because there’s so many bits of wisdom that I’ve gathered from the amazing people that I’ve worked for. One that comes to mind is something that Catherine Hamlin said to me really early on when I was dying from the work load and the stress and some of the risks we were taking to raise big money for her work. And she said to me, “Lucy, just do it for the patients.” And that was very specific to the work we were doing, but behind that is the idea that you need a reason, you need something outside of yourself to get up and go go go. So just getting up and go go going for the money is a bad reason, because that will fizzle out, that will never actually eject you out of bed at five in the morning, every morning and make you feel good about what you do. And so in all my work, if I’ve been able to find my reason and even if it’s just a person that I’m doing it for, that has really, really motivated me and moved me along hard, because I felt a sense of obligation. I’ve wanted to do it for that person or that because or that reason. And it was good working with Catherine Hamlin, because she was really elderly when I first started working for her, so from the time I started working for her, I knew she was going to die at some point. She’s been planning for her death from the time she was 80. She died when she was 96. But I knew that I wouldn’t be able to work for her forever, so she said, “Lucy, do it for the patients.” And it was a patient I met and I actually published her photo in my book, because her little hopeful face far out, it used to get me out of bed in the morning. I published her picture in here, where is she? She’s here.

H – I remember reading about her.

L – Gorgeous patient, used to really move me along. And so, you just have to find what that is for you, can you see? That’s her there, down the bottom, that’s the patient. There we go. So I took her portrait in ward one day and she had a tragic heartbreaking story, I used to do my work for her, that patient and she represented all those women that would benefit from the work I was doing. So having a reason that I could actually put a face to really helped fire me along. I mean, there’s so many amazing pieces of wisdom that I have been shared with from much older more experienced clever people and I think of them often and I refer to them in lots of places.

H – Yeah. What I’m going to do after we finished tonight everybody, I’m going to put a link in the comments that will direct you to be able to get the first chapter of Lucy’s book, “Get the Girls Out”, for free. I can assure you right now that whether you read that first or whether you just go, “Ah, stuff it, I’m just buying the book.”

L – Just give me the whole book.

H – Yeah, yeah, you should just press the button that says, give me the whole book, ‘because that book is bloody fabulous and her stories are so inspiring and that she’s learned that she shares with us in the book are ones that is really worth reading. So please once I put that link in once we close off, click on it, get the first chapter, if you want to, just get the whole book that would be the better thing to do, definitely. And I’m so glad, Jo Bainbridge is going to introduce me to Annie Lennox I’m pretty excited about that.

L – Woo, woo.

H – Thanks Jo. We’ll be making that happen.

L – Jo is the famous cellist.

H – Oh, wow. That’s fantastic. Well that is all we have for us tonight, unless you have one last question for Lucy. Please put it in, unless Lucy has a closing remark she would like to make.

L – Oh, closing remark, closing remark. Oh gosh, closing remark. If you know someone having a baby they will love this book, it’s really fun, the birth stories are absolutely gorgeous, there’s some famous Australian men, actually Osher Gunsberg’s probably one of the most famous big one I know. And his best story is in there. He tells a really funny story, because when they went in the hospital to have their baby, the midwife recognised him and just went all fan girl on him and was going, “Oh, tell me about the Bachelor and is the house for real.” And was just fan girling him and his wife in labour just stopped, just stopped right there. And she didn’t have her baby for another three weeks.

H – Oh my God.

L – So it’s actually a really good demonstration of how adrenaline can just stall labour. But he tells it very well, yeah.

H – Well, Lucy, thank you so much for being here tonight, I really appreciate all your tips on reinventing ourselves and being courageous amongst all the fear and uncertainty that we’re dealing with right now. For everybody who is listening, what will happen is we will get this interview, this Q&A, this Wine and Wisdom, transcribed and I will upload it again to Facebook and share it with Lucy for her to upload to hers so you can share it with anybody who you think has missed out, who will really benefit from listening to Lucy’s wisdom. If you would like to be notified about who I’ve got upcoming, maybe when Michelle Obama and Annie Lennox come on, (thank you Jo) just DME or put yes please in the comments and I will certainly get in contact with how that can happen. But Lucy, thank you so much.

L – You’re welcome, thanks for having me.

H – It’s been wonderful, I truly loved reading your book, I’ve loved following you over the last eight years, you are truly inspiring. Thank you for being so courageous and doing all the amazing things you are doing in our world – making such a difference.

L – Aw, you’re most welcome, thanks for being so flattering.

H – My pleasure. Keep that pink hair pink.

L – Oh yes, my publisher won’t let me change it.

H – No, I’m sure. Good night everybody, have a wonderful evening. Enjoy the rest of your wine and whatever’s in your glass and I will see you in two weeks. Night night.

About Lucy Bloom:

Lucy is an award-winning leader and speaker. She’s a change maker, exceptional communicator and business fixer with the best mohawk in the business. Lucy led an advertising agency for 20years before she became the CEO of a brand new women’s health organisation, funding a network of hospitals in Ethiopia. She then went on to transform a Cambodian children’s charity as its first CEO.

She is the creator of the world’s first childbirth education program for men run in local pubs all over Australia and she’s the first and only Aussie named in the world top30 #social ceos.

Lucy’s top-selling memoir, Get the Girls Out, was published by HarperCollins in 2019 to rave reviews. You will find her challenging and entertaining in equal measure, with humour tied into a powerful business message. Lucy Bloom is a rule breaker, idea maker and momentum creator.

Find her on social @thelucybloom.

Sign up for the first chapter of her memoir for free here.

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