[Music]
well hello
and welcome to the wine and wisdom show
thank you for being here tonight a
wednesday night
in april our last wednesday night in
april if you are here for the first time
cheers thank you for being here and for
those of you who are returning
again thank you so much for coming along
it’s so wonderful when i get to see your
smiley comments
not pictures i suppose but as you know
the show
it’s all about connection and i think
what we have learned more than anything
over the last 12 months is
as humans we crave to be connected with
other humans who
bring a smile to our face and warmth to
our hearts
and some wisdom to our brains and of
course tonight we’re going to be talking
about
connection a lot with my incredible
guest
but before i bring her on i’ve got a
couple of extra things to say to you and
firstly you know for those of you who
are coming here for the very first time
what we do here on the wine and wisdom
show apart from
having a little tipple is to for me to
be able to share
the incredible humans that i have been
lucky enough
to meet uh and surround myself with
throughout my life who
you know i believe are making truly
amazing differences on the ground level
uh to to our world and i think
well i don’t think i actually believe
that it’s just these people who are
behind the scenes is courageous these
resilient
self leaders who really are changing our
world
one person and one business at a time
and
tonight is going to be no exception with
that person because she is doing
some truly remarkable things but before
i introduce her i would first
love to acknowledge our
traditional custodians and elders spread
across the many lands that we are all
located on today
i’m personally coming to you from the
lands of the birrabirragal people
which you can see there in the balmain
area of sydney
but i do pay my respects to traditional
owners who have
nurtured and protected this wonderful
country
that we all get to work live and play in
so thank you to all of you all right
i am now going to bring up our wonderful
guest
her name is liz edgecombe hello liz
welcome to the wine and wisdom show
cheers to you
cheers to you liz thank you for being on
the show and for everybody who is
listening um
liz started an incredible company called
the spice people
25 years ago can you believe she’s been
in business
um all those years and it’s going to be
sharing lots of her
his wonderful stories from across the
globe and the impact
she is making with the fact that she is
what she calls a spice
evangelist which i love i don’t think
i’ve ever heard
of someone calling themselves that liz
so i’m i’m really to have
happy to have you as my first spice
evangelist on the show
you may have seen liz on channel 10’s
show called
my market kitchen but if not you should
go back but liz’s passion
and expertise is to bring
all the extraordinary spices from around
the world to your dinner plates
and because she does this it’s just this
incredible way for us to connect
cuisines and culture and people together
liz i know that’s just such a smidgy
little intro
but i would love for you to properly
introduce yourself
uh because you obviously know yourself a
lot better than i do
and share with all our uh audience about
you know what it is or the positivity
that you are sprinkling across our globe
thank you heidi i i have to say i think
you did a pretty fine job and
um yes spice evangelist it’s a bit
tongue-in-cheek but uh
many many years ago when i would go
around to
my customers i was called oh here comes
the spice girl so
i think spice of lentils is
girls in your 20s really i think aren’t
you otherwise that’s right you know
25 years ago maybe spice girl was apt
but
well thank you being with us so tell us
about tell us about that spot the spice
people and being a spice evangelist
uh well look you know it is a it is a
journey of 25 years so
to condense it all into um tonight i
will be sleeping over a few bits
for sure but um you know one of the
things that
i guess the spice people do and of
course me being behind the spice people
is that our passion is to um
open the door to a new world of cuisine
and flavor for everyone
so you said it in the introduction um
and that’s really what we’re trying to
do so
you know fundamental to all of that is
is as you said the connection between
culture cuisine and food you really
can’t separate them they’re
so inexpensively linked um
you know and for me by being able to
travel
pre-covered the world and and um
you know collect and share these
wonderful um dishes which are
infused with spices and wonderful
flavors
uh you know i’m really hoping to to
bring that back and connect and share
people’s culture with the world you know
so that’s really been
um a great motivation for me over the
years and along that journey i’ve you
know encountered all kinds of situations
and opportunities
which has shaped the spice people today
so um you know look at the heart of it
um
i’m a really passionate educator and a
storyteller really
and spices are just my tools of the
train
yeah i love that and i suppose um
i’m sure you will agree uh liz that when
we are using spices to
to bring culture and cuisine to our
tables that
they go really well with wine don’t they
and that’s what we should be doing
connecting those beautiful spices with
wine what have you got in your glass
tonight
um i have a lovely rose from
peninsula so there you go
so that’s one of my favourite drinks yeah
i’d love to know what everybody is
having
at home what are you having is it a red
or white a beer or bubbles a gnt or a
cocktail or a mocktail
uh let us know in the comments uh of
what you’re drinking but
while you’re doing that liz uh i had a
guest last year he talked about
the one the wonderful dance between
choice and chance
and when we were talking about that he
was just
we were talking about how our life
you know it’s these can be those sliding
door moments where all of a sudden we’re
off this
on this track but other for some people
is something that they’ve wanted to do
since they were little girls or little
boys
what are what what was it for you what
brought you to what you were doing now
was it
was it choice or was it chance let it
let let us all know
oh look i love that and i i actually
think there’s a third part there
it’s like it’s choice and it’s chance
and then the third one is ability and i
think when they interconnect
you had something special and whatever
that is for you
and that person it’s always unique and
for me
there was a whole lot of chance um and
opportunity that that led me to the
spice people journey
um but then in the end to be here 25
years
i had to have some ability hey maybe
that’s the spice evangelist bit
oh yeah i’d imagine so but you know
do you know what i mean it’s like you
really you have to have that ability
to to run a business grow a business um
and do those things so
you know not everyone gets that that
chance and that opportunity
they might have made a choice that they
want a better world or they want to get
there but you know not everyone gets
the opportunity and i think that’s
that’s one of the things in life you
learn that um
when you get that opportunity don’t
squander it
because you don’t get them all the time
and you’ve got to be brave enough to
just go
hello this is could be it this could be
worthwhile
let’s just go for it and and have a go
and
um nothing ventured nothing gained uh
and i guess that was for me
how i sort of dove into the spice world
um i was just really you know i’m not
i’m not a chef
i don’t have that background i’ve got a
you know i’m a country girl
i’ve got an egg science background um
and postgrad in business so
i did have the capability uh to run a
business
technically technically
you live you learn a hell of a lot when
you get going i can assure you oh yes
you certainly do
you do and so for me it was just i once
i started traveling
and enjoying meeting these people and
enjoying the cuisines and the cultures i
just wanted to
recreate them myself if initially
but then as you say the choice and the
chance came along
and i had the opportunity to actually do
something with
herbs and spices um and share them with
other people and that was the journey
and um and then the beginning of it and
uh you know you can
see there’s been an evolving uh process
for
many years and liz you know i know that
you
i mean you started this as a side hustle
in fact it was just something you’re
doing on the side and then you found
yourself
to be a single mother all of a sudden
and really had to work very hard to
create this side hustle
into something that could support you
and the family
uh how did that all happen because
that’s that’s not a i wouldn’t imagine
that would have been an easy thing to do
well how did the divorce happen well
like everybody else’s
pick yourself up dust yourself off um
you know i can laugh about it now but at
the time it was pretty traumatic
um and i remember your guest the other
day gail when she’s talking about
menopause
um and how she got through it i think i
probably tried to get through my divorce
that way as well
doesn’t everyone hit the bottle when
they go to menopause i don’t know
i don’t know yeah so anyway but look it
was tough
um and i didn’t have two young children
um
and so i really had to think carefully
about
how i would go forward so um i coined
the term the tortoise and the hair
um but in reality i i needed to be there
a lot quicker than that but it
yeah by the using the tortoise and hair
approach i actually got there quicker
than i would have otherwise because i
think sometimes
we have that whole um fear and panic
and worry and that stress
and you’re going it can sort of
immobilise you
so if you break it down into small
digestible little morsels um with
where i took the waters and the hair
where i just went five percent
if i just do this five percent better
than last week
if i just think of five percent
something better i could do in the store
what could i do with this customer how
could i make um
you know the bar you know the sale from
a hundred dollars to a hundred and ten
dollars you know
each time just do do those kind of you
break it down it was like then you look
back and you go
wow i spent an extra 150 you know so
it was you know figuratively speaking uh
but you know i literally doubled the
business within six months because you
know i
had two children to feed and um
to look after and i had to find a way to
do it and
even i knew the business had potential
and it was still it’s me small
i really needed to to level it up to the
next level and
back myself and it really came down to
that i just had to simply
back myself you know batten down the
hatches and just go
that’s it first all the way up the hill
you know yeah
and that’s my big bill panties yeah
that’s it and you know i i i surprised
myself
literally i literally surprised myself
and went oh my god i can do this
um and you know because you don’t
necessarily have someone around you to
support you with that because
you’re so busy giving support to your
children you know if you have another
partner or anything else
or other family members you know you’re
torn between a lot of commitments as a
woman
and so these decisions are pretty
important to
you know think about the way you go
about it rather than
just thinking oh my god i’ve got to find
a hundred thousand dollars quickly
so yeah so that was sort of you know my
philosophy yeah
and you know it stood me in good stead
and
um you know there are other things that
i do in my business that are perhaps
unique
i know a lot of times when people come
and visit
or call in for the first time if they’re
a new supplier
and things like that they they basically
sort of
say you really have a unique way of
doing things and i said really
i’m like doing this uniquely i thought i
was just doing what everyone else did
and yeah it comes from because i just
simply had to back myself
and find a solution and work it out
myself
and and you know maybe some things i do
are not necessarily the same as
everybody else
but in my world i thought i was doing
the same so yeah they’re right for you
right that’s
i mean that’s what you’ve got to go with
they’re right for you
and i mean i would imagine liz you know
having spices which come from all around
the world you’ve
you’ve experienced a lot of travel
because of that unfortunately
our world is shut down in that respect
but
spices could still bring us together
right they can still connect us
through our food how how can you see how
do you see it now where
in fact the spices that you’re providing
are actually able to connect people more
well i think the events of last year
really have and continue to
create a major shift and in people’s
values
and priorities so how the spices connect
you and help with that
well really simply at the heart of it um
coming together and sharing a meal um is
one of the most communal
and binding um kind of things in almost
every place in the world like we all
have to eat
um and you know one of the things about
spices is if you think of the spice
roots of the world
you just you’re immediately think exotic
you know you you’re inspired you’re
going you know the sahara desert and
moroccan knights
movies of lawrence and arabia the whole
world just tran
you just transported off into this
magical mystery
kind of tour and you know it kind of all
that sense of adventure
and excitement it just follows the spice
route so
dishes and flavors that are you know
i suppose iconic and famous along the
spicer to the world
are the ones you’re going to look out
and seek to because they’re going to
invoke the most
i suppose um you know warming
and and heartfelt memories and and you
know connect
people and things like that so i think
you know spices are really one of the
the greatest ways to bring the world
together i mean don’t forget look how
much time and energy was spilt
was spent in history creating this spice
route in the world in the first place
yeah all the british and the european
and the and the spanish and the
portuguese
when they and french you know they
conquered the world and bought all these
these spices that were so precious and
so highly sought after
um went to great lengths to get them so
there’s such a
great history and um amazing kind of
story
so it’s natural to think that dishes
that are exciting like that are just
going to
you know connect people and you know
give a bit of excitement and variety
when we’re all
you know we’re stuck at home and we
couldn’t physically see people
and stuff for that i mean i’ve even
heard people doing
zoom cook-ups with their families in you
know overseas and cooking dishes
and having a shared plate um so they’re
both cooking the same dishes in
different parts of the world
and sitting there with the zoom saying
well welcome to sunday night dinner
together again you know
something you know and having a shared
table so
you know it’s it’s um it’s wonderful
that that food and particularly
food that had spices really yeah you
know you play a great role in um
helping people be connected and their
sense of well-being
i think in this time and i’d love to
know for those who are watching either
now
or later on what is your favourite spice
you know what is the one that you use
the most in your cooking whether it’s
your
every you know week weekday cooking or
the one that you use when you have uh
people over
either at your table or via a zoom
screen
that you’re in your entertaining spice i
suppose you know what
what is that for you and liz while we’re
waiting for our audience to put a few in
what is
what is that one for you which one do
you use most
for me um yeah the new um moroccan
spice would have to be my go to um i
reckon i could write a recipe book and
maybe i will one day for 101 ways you
can use this spice
i just honestly it’s you know if i’m
just not feeling inspired to cook
anything different i’ll just get a pinch
of that
and just you know just sprinkle it on
something and just tickle it up whether
it’s a pumpkin soup
or rubbing it on a chicken or you know
making a beautiful moroccan tagine
you know i can just find so many ways
just to
liven up your food a little bit you know
just you don’t always have to make
you know an exotic dish you just you
know for me
um i’d rather use spice rather than salt
so for me just a way to you know add a
little bit of depth of flavor to
most of my dishes you know i even
sprinkle the moroccan on salads and
you know even um a whole lot of those um
you know those little salad toppers
where you cook you oh yeah
yeah pumpkin seeds and pepitas i’ll
you know toss them in um some moroccan
spice and a bit of oil and salt
and make them like a you know a lovely
crunchy topping for salad and
you know there’s so many ways you can
use it so that would be my
go-to but my favourite spice
that i absolutely love is an australian
native called lemon myrtle i could just
honestly i could get high on it i just
love
i honestly do it’s not that i i don’t
cook with it with everything
but i just love the smell and i’m just
always
you know you just do that with the lemon
myrtle all day
i actually yeah i love i’ve had the
lemon myrtle scented candles i just love
the scent but it is so delicious
absolutely beautiful i was actually
thinking today
um liz oh with kylie’s yo gosh
kylie i asked for one and you’ve given
us a whole lot
there but that’s lots of wonderful
spices
thank you for sharing that uh definitely
i love all those as well
liz i was thinking today as i was
watching the news and seeing the
terrible scenes in india
and thinking about the fact that so many
of
the spices that we all use and you
probably source from there and i’m sure
just watching
what’s going on in india knowing you
know the
how that’s linked to everything you do
has been pretty sad actually
ah look it’s just terrible a number of
my staff members
um are indian or sri lankan and you know
i’m constantly being updated you know
from the real
source if you like rather than the news
about what’s been happening in the
different areas
how their families are how they’re going
um
and it’s you know it’s hard to see i
mean i’ve i’ve spent over a month
traveling through india for different
areas of the spice regions and other
cultural areas
and so you know i’m really fond of the
people and the culture and the society
there and i really
i can see how hard it is for countries
of that size and population
to really you know handle something like
this because
their facilities just they’re just not
there and they don’t have
the infrastructure the support i mean
even
in a not when it’s not a pandemic the
death rate in these countries is huge
because of the lack of
facilities and capabilities to help them
so yeah look it’s terrible and um you
know we do get a lot of spices from
india and
uh we have been aware of the situation
for some time so
we have been working with uh people you
know to
basically order long if you like
um that we can you know still obviously
you know get our spices um but it’s the
shipping
around the world which is um which is
perhaps
actually making the biggest uh challenge
to all food companies
um yet products around the world because
of the
the um it’s it’s kind of like um the
shipping channels
there’s a lot of shipping in one
direction as i understand it
and not enough coming back the other way
so there’s no container swap overs and
things like that so
um you know the world has just gone
upside down everywhere
yeah you have i don’t know i don’t know
the answer but you know
my heart goes out to everyone there yeah
mine too
it’s it’s truly just devastating to
watch
and i know uh i mean you you do a lot of
work on the ground in countries like
india in regards to your link for
well your passion for helping um females
to start businesses and you do that
through a great organisation we’ve
talked about called
kiva uh i was looking at some statistics
today
in australia for example 30
of the businesses that that we have here
in australia are owned by women
uh i just i’d love to hear from you
regarding
what your thoughts are on the kind of
rise because it is a rising we’re in the
top 10 of the world of
uh female entrepreneurs what are your
thoughts on the rise of
women starting their own businesses what
why is that happening
i mean it’s a fantastic thing i’m not
like that’s what i’m trying to say is
that it’s just such a great
thing that more women are starting
businesses i think that in fact the
stats in america are
much more than australia but you are
very linked to helping other female
entrepreneurs to get started
why is that so important to you how do
you see this kind of rise in
female entrepreneurship happening what
do we need to look for and do
so we can do it better well there was
about five questions
yeah yeah i don’t know where i went with
that but i’ve somehow got five questions
in one
absolutely um look i think helping um
women in australia for instance i think
the biggest thing in australia and i
found it as well
that um the glass ceiling is really
still here
and as much as we are the land of
opportunity and we are so much
more privileged than many other
countries in the world
there is still a limit and there’s still
um
a kind of undertone in australia and i
think gail your other guest
mentioned it too where we really
struggle with success
and we really want to put a limit on
someone’s success
and in particular the success of a woman
and you know one of the things that i
have had to do
is to try and find ways through that
glass ceiling even as an entrepreneur
not just in the um
corporate world which i understand many
women you know struggle with
i certainly looked at it and went not
for me
um if i’m if i’m gonna bust my gut it’ll
be for me
um so i wasn’t going to bust my gut to
to be told that i couldn’t be the the
next ceo
simply because you know um you know my
my nose was crooked or something and um
you know i didn’t wear high enough heels
um so
uh but you know i still found it was it
was tough and you know look i’m i’m a
very resilient person
um and you know i’m very fortunate in
that
but not everybody is so you know really
for me it’s just about trying to
encourage
and extend the olive branch for those
that
aren’t that have the capability um they
want that choice
but you know everybody needs support and
um if i can encourage someone just to
you know believe in themselves one bit
more and and take that next step then
you know i
i feel that that’s really important
because those of us who are strong
enough
should you know be able to you know
extend a hand and help others that
aren’t as
strong in their emotional belief of
themselves and
you know anything you can do to help get
there is um
really what you need to be a resilient
woman in business and you know it’s
um it’s tough i i mean i had a new
employee that started only last week and
i was telling him about my journey
about some of the times when i could
have lost my business due to aggressive
competition
and i suppose underhand tactics
and things and i really had to dig in
and i had to fight you know there was no
doubt about it this was my turf and my
business and i
really had to be ten foot tall instead
of five foot five
yeah yeah yeah
but um but you know look i think one of
the things that i am
also very passionate about is is helping
with kiva which is what you
started on your journey
women around the world isn’t it women
around the world have this issue
so um but for me um kiva is um
the charity that we love to support it’s
our charity of choice
and the reason we do that is because um
you know
it is in these emerging economies where
very few people have the opportunity to
get funding for the simplest things like
you know a broken down piece of
machinery an extra cow to add you know
to
to you know so they can get milk to make
cheese to feed the family
um or you know a herd of goats um
or wire or fencing to repair their
fences so that they can keep their
livestock
and you know without that a lot of these
um
traditions and cultural practices and
ways of life will be lost because people
are going to go to the cities where the
factories are there and the allure of
work
because they can’t support their current
lifestyle so for us it was really
important to help people help themselves
in everyday lives so it’s not just about
when disaster strikes or anything like
that it’s
it’s it’s helping people to you know to
keep their lives and keep their culture
and keep their practices alive
and you know educate their children um
you know keep them fed and
you know if my little micro loans to
each of these groups of communities of
women
help them do that um and i know they do
that’s the best part about kieva is i
know they do because
they repay their loans and i mean it’s
just such a beautiful time like
you know when you give to a charity and
you feel good about it
isn’t it wonderful to actually get that
direct feedback
that your your loan has made a positive
impact on someone’s lives
because you know because that loan has
been repaid and you get to see
that and then you get to learn it again
you know
so yeah beautiful it’s it’s a really
i really feel good about the charity we
support
yeah absolutely and i think you know
when we come back to
the our theme for tonight about how
this kind of connection between people
cuisines and culture
it just that encompasses everything
you’ve just that said in fact lives
because
you know via your success through your
business that you are kind of paying it
forward to
other people people who are buying your
product
they’re connecting through cuisine with
people around their table or via a zoom
screen
across the world and there’s just this
beautiful link between what you’re doing
and this connection
piece and you know as i said right at
the beginning you know this show is
really all about connection because i
truly believe that
a connection i mean it makes such a
difference to our lives it makes such a
difference to our mental health
it makes such a difference to the way we
show up
every day and the types of
work that you’re doing is not only
connecting you to other people that you
don’t even get to meet but you
allow them to connect with others
through their businesses
that they create connect the connection
that they get to have with their
families because they’re able to
send their children to schools and
there’s connection there
so it’s just this incredible ripple
effect that can
just keeps on going um so thank you for
what you’re doing and i
i think it’s a good time for us to bring
up uh the fact that we have mother’s day
coming up and
and you’ve got a wonderful way to help
people connect
um with their mothers or their
godmothers or their fur baby mothers
whatever
that might be through a
wonderful offer that you’ve got would
you just like to
take us through that yes look i mean
well we’re talking about connection and
supporting and resilient women
um mum’s the word isn’t it so i think
it’s you know it’s always nice to
um to give back at mother’s time
and show you care so we’ve put together
a little pamper pack in the food so
we’ve got a gorgeous little chai infused
candle
with a lovely little spice bag where you
can store your spices
and we’ve got a beautiful treat from
bramble and hedge which is a
gorgeous little homemade nougat
um and we’ve also got our beautiful chai
which is all natural sugar-free
um preservative-free and you brew it
in the teapot so you can see the three
sort of levels of indulgence if you like
beyond beautiful just the simple one
that you can show mum you care
uh so yeah just a little treat so not
only are we helping people around the
world with kiva where
we’re trying to give something to mums
everywhere
yeah so i will put that link to everyone
watching now or later i’ll put that link
in the comments so you can click on
and use the code uh to get 10 off
and liz is actually going to match that
10 that that discount
and pay it forward to kiva so that um
other women around the world to have a
gift
as well coming up um over the next
couple of weeks which is just beautiful
so thank you liz for doing that i think
well said i’d forgotten about the whole
you know special deal but you know as
you do when you’re
talking but yeah look we we’d love to
declive and what a great excuse to um
give a little bit more
absolutely now i have two final
questions for you the first one is
obviously the last year has been a very
tricky one you work in an or
in a sector where you are relying
on as you said before transport to get
to and from this country so you can
continue your your business and you’re
used to being able to travel to all
these
these different places to to source what
you’re wanting to source
that’s all stopped um things have had to
change rapidly in the retail space it’s
been very fast-paced
and ever-changing the way people are
consuming and buying
so i wondered you know what what do you
do
now to ensure that you are resilient
enough
to deal with this ever-changing
and sometimes overwhelming uh business
world
or just personal world that you’re
living in what what what do what are the
practices or the one
main thing that you do to keep yourself
resilient
um yeah always a good question there’s
probably never one answer
but my go-to is i call it switch it up
it’s just a simple thing that you go um
you know switch it up change gears
change direction
get out of there yeah you know
basically if you’re stuck in that spot
if i
for me if i go for a walk or a bush walk
or
walk the dog or go for ride my bike or
do something practical
that’s got nothing to do with work or or
whatever other emotion it might be
attached to it could be family pressure
certainly last year
there were family pressures because
suddenly you know
the whole world is imploding and that
included your children and
your you know your parents and everybody
else so there was
um a whole lot of extra additional
emotions that weren’t there in other
years
uh and they all had to be worked through
and they’re not easy journeys um
for sure so there were plenty of times
when i didn’t need to switch it up you
know i
i generally don’t get down too often but
yeah i certainly had my moments last
year and
i just found if i i call it moving
meditation
if i get out there and do something that
is that
this just removes me from all of that
noise i i get it’s my i get that space
to breathe and
and um you know and and the way forward
becomes a lot more clear so for me
you know doing something physical like
that and and um getting out
and out from that that situation is the
best thing for me
for sure because you know we all need it
none of us are superhuman
i’d love you to answer sophia’s question
there about the most rewarding thing you
felt you’ve done during this journey of
being a spice evangelist
oh look that’s probably pretty simple i
mean the most rewarding thing for me
is what i give to everyone and you know
for me
nothing gives me more joy than when i
find a beautiful dish somewhere in the
world and i bring it back
and i recreate it and i make it easy
and available for everyone else to do
that i just you know
for me this is my gift to the world is
to be able to bring it from here
to make keep it as authentic as we can
and um but just to inspire others to
try these beautiful dishes and and hold
their hand and say
it’s really easy to achieve it’s it’s
not hard
you know just bust out of your routine a
little bit
and you know see what a wonderful thing
that
cooking these dishes can do to your
sense of wellness
and enjoyment in life because you know
that’s the biggest
the biggest legacy you can do is in your
life is to know that you’ve contributed
to the
enrichment of people’s lives and that’s
what spices do it’s it’s an
enriching culinary journey and that’s my
little gift to the world it you know it
sounds like i’m not trying to be
you know hoo-hooey but um or anything
like that but i’m just saying
everybody has a gift in what they do and
i just think i know that that’s my
special thing that i can share with
people and you know that’s what gives me
the greatest joy
yeah and that’s beautiful listen i mean
when you look you look at someone like
kylie’s comment here and you know she
she’s got like she i know kylie and
she’s actually an ex
excellent um cook but spices like you
know we just love them and
again just exactly what you’re saying
about this beautiful connection between
people and sharing of food and what that
does to our wellness
and our mental health and the way
we feel about ourselves it’s such a
beautiful thing
um so that’s great the last question liz
uh we’re on the wine and wisdom show
we’ve
we’ve had a little wine together um as
another one
everybody else has now it’s time for
wisdom i’d love to know
what is the most impactful piece of
wisdom that you have been given in your
life
and why did it make such an impact to
you
i think um it’s a really simple one
um and that is go for experience over
asset every time
and what i mean by that which is you
know a cliche perhaps but
you know there’s in life you only have
one life
and if you live it well you don’t need
one more than one
so are you going to regret that lifetime
experience of traveling with someone
who’s a friend a colleague or a great
adventurer
are you going to regret not going on it
because you bought the lamborghini
that’s my question in life and and you
know as much as it sounds so simple you
can apply that to just
so many situations yeah and i think
really for me you know i’m not madonna
i’m not a material girl
for me it is about experiences and
that’s what keeps me invigorated and you
know you need
something to keep you invigorated you
know when you buy something
even when it’s new clothes and things
like that you fall in love with it for
five minutes you wear it once or twice
and then you go you know and so that but
you talk about your journeys and you
talk about your experiences
you reminisce with family and friends
and that’s that connectedness isn’t it
it’s really
it really is deeper than you know as i
said i say you know go experience that
asset every time but it really comes
down to a much deeper
meaning than that and you know that’s
what that’s what keeps us whole that’s
what keeps us anchored
that’s what gives us a sense of being
who we are and
you know that’s really important because
if you know who you are
you’re comfortable with who you are um
you know that’s
you know it’s just a good feeling you
feel much better don’t you about
yourself
you sure do and i think we can and
you’re so right with those experiences i
think we can all
remember just those experiences that
we’ve had around
around the sharing of food and the
connection of people around the table
somewhere either you know down at the
park
under a tree you know or in you know in
the past
in some far-off land it’s just that
sharing of experience that
fills our memories and fills our lives
and it’s what fills us up and makes us
feel wonderful and again just
saying that word again which i can’t
stop tonight but or ever really
it’s that whole connection piece and
it’s just so important to our lives so
liz thank you so much for coming on
tonight
and sharing your wisdom and sharing this
journey that you’ve been on
from side hustle to this incredible 25
year journey where
you’ve gone through many ups and downs
but what you’ve done
all along the way is not only connect
the people with
beautiful food and beautiful spices and
beautiful recipes
but you’ve also paid it forward so
there’s other women around the world who
have been able to
start businesses and have that
connection and
the and give them the financial courage
to be able to
start something beautiful so thank you
very much for what you’re doing
and i think everybody would agree that
um having wonderful wonderful people
like liz in the world
is such a great thing i will be putting
the link to her website and the link to
that
beautiful opportunity to get some lovely
gift packs for
the mums in your world that would
um yeah also pay it forward to other
women around the world so
thank you everybody for being on either
now or in the or when you’re watching it
later
liz thank you again uh cheers to you
cheers to everybody watching
and um i look forward to seeing
everybody in two weeks time
all right thank you so much i’ve loved
it
yeah great to have you on thank you liz
bye good night everyone
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